Showing posts with label David Ortiz. Show all posts
Showing posts with label David Ortiz. Show all posts
January 20, 2015
Junk Wax Battle 2.0 - Players Needed!
If you're a longtime reader of this blog, you know that I'm all about innovation in this wonderful hobby of ours. Not so much innovating the cards themselves, but how we as collectors approach and make sense of them, and their meaning and use within our lives.
Back in October, my friend Matt and I hosted a game—we called it Junk Wax Battle—at our local board game cafe in Brookline, Mass. The goal was to put together a complete set of 1988 Donruss by ripping packs, trading with other players, and winning in-game auctions. We had five players and one judge.
And while it was fun, it was too chaotic, frenetic, and crazy to keep track of everything at once. That was problem number one. By going for a complete set, players had to keep the cards face-down in order to view each card's checklist number, so they couldn't appreciate the ugly, futuristic blue design and photos on the fronts of the cards (problem number two). And after two-and-a-half hours, none of the players had completed the set. So there was problem number three.
Our post mortem with the players revealed other problems: there were too many moving parts in the game-play structure and the set itself was too big to complete in the time we allotted. While the players' different checklisting styles wasn't an issue, the time it took each of them to sort and then physically cross names and numbers off the checklist was.
Armed with this constructive criticism and firsthand experience, it was back to the drawing board. And now, after much tinkering, Junk Wax Battle 2.0 is ready to be put to the test.
We've incorporated smaller checklists—within the larger set—that can change from game to game (or even round to round). We've made the scoring system easier to manage for the players and for the judge. We have a game board (like a baccarat mat), and a less convoluted game structure than before. And we have a real prize, supplied by a generous local card shop. All we need now are players.
Would you pay $10 for a chance to win an autographed David Ortiz baseball card? We're looking for 3 to 5 players available for Sunday, February 15th. If you're in the Boston, Massachusetts area and are interested in competing in Junk Wax Battle 2.0 for a chance to win this great prize, drop me a line.
November 04, 2013
Average Real Pricing (ARP): The Future of the Price Guide
There's an oft-repeated, widely held misconception amongst vintage card collectors, one that reeks of that “old money vs. new money” elitism. That misconception is that new cards—cards made in the last 10 years—are worthless.
It’s not true, of course. After all, anything can have value if someone is willing to purchase it. The problem is, unlike cards manufactured prior to 1970, new cards are probably not worth as much as collectors are led to believe. Whereas the market and value for older cards is more stable, the value of a new card is dictated not so much by what the market will actually pay, but by an artificial, out-of-touch price: its “book” value.
Since the rise of the nationally consulted price guide in the early 1980s, “book” value has been determined by an aggregate tally of prices reported by a network of sources within the hobby, mostly card shop owners and touring show dealers. The reported prices were accurate and reliable because that’s where collectors bought cards: at hobby shops and at card shows.
But over the last 10 to 15 years, with the rise of online shopping and big-box, one-stop-shopping stores like Walmart and Target—combined with the dwindling number of card shows and hobby shops—the tried-and-true price guide model stopped working.
So why base pricing on reports from people with only half the story? One theory is that it preserves the card-collecting industry. Without a somewhat-inflated baseline, whatever shops and touring dealers remain would flag and fail. Another theory is that this model is still used because it’s convenient. Changing how book prices are determined would undermine more than 30 years of labor of transforming a hobby into a gigantic industry. And while changing the nature of how and from where prices are collected would erode the “wink-wink” dealer advantage and definitely shake things up, nobody wants to see the hobby fail. We just don’t want to be lied to anymore about the true “value” of our cards.
Enter the average real pricing guide, or ARP guide. With monthly prices based on realized prices of new, raw card sales from various Internet auction sites, any card’s ARP will be much more accurate than a traditional price guide’s pie-in-the-sky value.
Let’s look at an example. Topps 2013 Series Two came out in mid-June. And while most collectors don’t expect base cards of a flagship set like Topps—with a total print run probably into the millions of cards—to hold their value long-term, how should we value short-printed cards like the on-checklist variations? Realized prices from September and October were used to find the ARP values of 17 variations (see table below).
Card # & Player
|
ARP Value
|
Unregulated ARP Value*
|
Trad. Price Guide Value Range (Dec.)
|
1C Bryce Harper Sunglasses SP
|
$14.78
|
$14.66
| $12.50–$30.00 |
10B Adam Jones Sunglasses SP
|
$4.95
|
$4.85
| $5.00–$12.00 |
11C Yu Darvish Sunglasses SP
|
$5.93
|
$6.02
| $5.00–$12.00 |
27C Mike Trout Sunglasses SP
|
$10.30
|
$10.19
| $8.00–$25.00 |
28B Prince Fielder Sunglasses SP
|
$4.26
|
$4.07
| $5.00–$12.00 |
34B Felix Hernandez Sunglasses SP
|
$3.13
|
$3.60
| $5.00–$12.00 |
55B Tim Lincecum Sunglasses SP
|
$4.25
|
$4.25
| $5.00–$12.00 |
110B Justin Upton Sunglasses SP
|
$2.38
|
$2.49
| $5.00–$12.00 |
122C Andrew McCutchen Sunglasses SP
|
$5.64
|
$5.72
| $6.00–$15.00 |
127B Giancarlo Stanton Sunglasses SP
|
$4.31
|
$4.10
| $5.00–$12.00 |
242C Matt Kemp Sunglasses SP
|
$2.91
|
$2.91
| $5.00–$12.00 |
316B Josh Reddick Sunglasses SP
|
$3.01
|
$3.23
| $5.00–$12.00 |
362B Yoenis Cespedes Sunglasses SP
|
$4.20
|
$4.02
| $5.00–$12.00 |
456B Pablo Sandoval Sunglasses SP
|
$3.47
|
$3.39
| $5.00–$12.00 |
595B David Ortiz Speech SP
|
$17.06
|
$17.77
| $10.00–$25.00 |
660B Miguel Cabrera Sunglasses SP
|
$7.43
|
$7.60
| $6.00–$15.00 |
661B Hyun-Jin Ryu Sunglasses SP
|
$4.40
|
$4.42
| $5.00–$12.00 |
*Unregulated ARP contains high and low in range.
The ARP values here aren’t arbitrary, like the traditional book values feel—the ARPs are made up of actual realized prices for raw cards on major Internet auction sites. (It’s important to stress that ARP values are for raw cards only. Graded cards are a different beast, and are not part of these calculations.) To determine each price, an aggregate of realized prices for each card was taken from a given a date range. Next, the highest and lowest prices were removed to avoid skewing the result (See note on Unregulated ARP above*). Whatever was left was factored into the ARP. In those few cases where five or fewer prices went into the price calculations, all prices were factored in. (In the example above, only the Kemp had five or fewer sales.)
One interesting quirk about an ARP value is that the number of individual prices that go into each average is not uniform. For instance, if a Yasiel Puig card is sold 20 times but a Dustin Pedroia is only sold 6 times, shouldn’t all 20 Puig prices be used to find its ARP? It’s a more popular card, after all. I used date cutoffs rather than number of individual prices. These values reflect whatever happened between September 1, 2013, and October 31, 2013.
And about that middle column... While the ARP is the more accurate of the two price values, the Unregulated ARP (UnARP) contains the single highest and single lowest values left out of each ARP range. With these values factored in, the ARP and UnARP form an accurate range of high and low for a given card (it doesn’t matter which is higher or lower). For example, your Felix Hernandez “Sunglasses” short-print variation in 2013 Topps Series 2 is valued between $3.13 ARP and $3.60 UnARP. This is how much you should expect to pay for it, and how much you should expect to get for it should you decide to sell it. Notice how the expected buy and sell price ranges are the same?
“Book” value has long been the starting point for negotiations, or baseline for dealers offering to buy cards. If a card books for $20, a dealer will usually pay 20% to 40% of book to buy, then turn around and charge 60% to 90% of book when selling the card. The dealer has to protect his profit margin in order to stay in business. That’s one of the inherent functions of the book value and a wrinkle in how the hobby currently works. An ARP value doesn’t have to protect a profit margin. Internet auction sites don’t care who’s buying or who’s selling. You want to buy that Ortiz “Speech” SP? Expect to pay between $17.06 and $17.77 for it. You want to sell the same Ortiz SP? Guess how much you should expect to get. That's right: between $17.06 and $17.77.
A level field is a new concept, one that won't be embraced by dealers. I expect the traditional price guides will fight ARP at every turn. But here's why you should use it if you buy and sell new, raw sports cards: it's accurate. And as you can see from the table above, "accurate pricing" and "book" value are rarely synonymous.
Labels:
2013 Topps,
accessible SPs,
ARP,
Ben Henry,
David Ortiz,
price guides,
speculation
April 20, 2012
Cardboard Fenway: 2007 UD First Edition David Ortiz
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| Cardboard Fenway - #100. 2007 UD First Edition David Ortiz |
September 15, 2007
Goudey Trade-away #12: Ortiz for Damon

This trade comes in from Brandon from Kokomo, Indiana.
Giving: Johnny Damon, #65
Getting: David Ortiz, 2007 Fleer Perfect 10
I'm convinced that Fleer's Perfect 10 insert set is one of the best inserts of the year, and this is after I've familiarized myself with Allen & Ginter and Goudey. My proclamation is based on one very simple principle: the designers at Upper Deck succeeded by limiting the use of gold foil. By restraining their foil-loving side, the gold acts more like gold leaf than a cheap foil. It makes for an elegant card. So what that the backs look like they were printed on a college freshman's free Lexmark inkjet printer?
Brandon writes: "I'm a huge yankkees [sic] fan so i was glad to get rid of one of my Red Sox cards." Gee, thanks Brandon. You know what? I'm glad to get rid of this Johnny Damon card. Enjoy.
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